"We decided, let's build something for the 99% and not this productivity boost for developers. And that's going to be a completely new type of interface." This statement from Anton Osika, Co-Founder and CEO of Lovable, encapsulates the ambitious, user-centric vision driving a new wave of AI-native startups from outside Silicon Valley. In a recent "Long Strange Trip" interview, Brian Halligan, Co-Founder of HubSpot and Partner at Sequoia, spoke with Osika and Mati Staniszewski, Co-Founder and CEO of ElevenLabs, about navigating the unique landscape of European hypergrowth, the evolution of leadership, and the unpredictable pace of AI innovation.
The conversation revealed a compelling narrative of founders who, rather than being fresh out of university, leveraged significant prior professional experience to tackle monumental challenges. Mati Staniszewski reflected on the difficulty of starting ElevenLabs in his early twenties, admitting, "I think it would have been hard." His tenure at Palantir, a company known for deploying engineers directly to customers to understand and solve complex problems, was formative. It offered him a crucial "glimpse into how to build something from scratch," instilling a product-first mindset rooted in real-world pain points. Anton Osika, similarly, gained experience through a CERN internship and an e-commerce recommendation system startup, insights that proved invaluable when he decided to pursue his "most ambitious thing" yet. This maturation, both founders agreed, provided the foresight and practical understanding essential for their current hypergrowth trajectories.
