Peter H. Diamandis brought Colossal’s founder onto Moonshots Live #297 to pressure-test a single timeline, when AI stops being middleware for biologists and starts designing organisms on prompt.
That clock is already ticking.
The conversation anchored itself to a few dated markers. At Abundance 360 last March, Elon Musk was in the room when the woolly mammoth pitch got a laugh. A couple of days before this taping, Anthropic announced its biology wet lab, which Diamandis and his guest framed as the near-term proof point that simulation plus bench validation can close the loop. Colossal, now valued at more than $10 billion, put its own intermediate milestones on the table, 300-plus edits delivered at more than 90 percent efficiency today, 1,000-edit constructs in test with low efficiency, and artificial wombs discussed on a 24-month horizon in the episode title.
For Colossal, the history that had to be true is not just CRISPR. It is the scaffolding around it. The team said it spent years wiring lab notebooks into Jira and retraining scientists to work in that system, a change the guest called harder than stem cell reprogramming. That unsexy integration was the precondition for using large language models at all. Before frontier models, the models could write a term paper but failed at ancestral state reconstruction and comparative genomics, so Colossal used them as middleware to normalize nomenclature and reporting instead of to design biology.
That nomenclature problem still dominates the next three to five years. Search the mouse literature and the same gene appears under different names, with slightly different protocols. Try to replicate the published work and you hit a 40 to 60 percent failure rate, Diamandis’s guest said. AI’s first real win in biology, in this telling, is not generating a perfect genome. It is cleaning that communication layer so PubMed actually finds the paper you need, and so an automated lab can run a comparable assay without a translation error.