Erik Torenberg hosted Dwarkesh Patel and Noah Smith at a16z to discuss artificial general intelligence (AGI) and its potential effects on the economy. The interview explored competing definitions of AGI, the debate between substitution and complementarity of AI versus human labor, and the reshaping of global power and the future of work.
One core insight revolves around the economic versus cognitive definitions of AGI. Noah Smith noted that Dwarkesh's definition is "an economic definition; it's not sort of a definition about like how it thinks, how it reasons, etc., it's about like what it can do." This distinction is crucial for founders and VCs, who must consider not just the technological prowess of AGI, but also its practical applicability and economic impact.
Humans have adapted to so much—agricultural revolution, industrial revolution, the growth of states, according to Dwarkesh. He added, "The idea that being free and having millions of dollars is the thing that finally gets us, I'm just suspicious of." This quote highlights another core insight: the evolving meaning of work in an AI-driven economy. The discussion questions the traditional notion that labor provides meaning, pondering what alternative sources of meaning might emerge as AI takes over more jobs.
"Humans have just adapted to so much," Dwarkesh Patel stated, emphasizing the adaptability of humanity to societal shifts. This adaptability is essential for navigating the changes that AGI could bring to the future of work. As Erik Torenberg noted, we are living in history right now.

